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Some completely random and totally unconnected theories
It's occured to me that it's been a long time since I posted anything fannish. To remedy this, I give you a selection of completely random and totally unconnected concepts and theories, which are not really stated in canon, but which I take for granted until Rowling proves me wrong:
Remus has no scars.
This, I think, actually is canon. Sadly, movie!Remus has made quite an impact, and has resulted in fandom!Remus being a scarred cardigan-wearer. Movie!Remus, however, has nothing in common with my Remus, and has thus left my image of him unspoiled. I think that Harry would have mentioned the scars, had Remus had them. He mentions the lines and the grey hair many, many times, and, I dare say, scars stand out rather more prominently than wrinkles. Especially to a boy's eyes. (I'd like to see the teenager who notices wrinkles but doesn't notice big fat scars.) So no, my Lupin doesn't have them. (And no, he doesn't wear a cardigan, either.)
Remus hates Snape.
He hates him. Passionately. Snape makes his skin crawl.
Lavender will die and Parvati will become a Seer.
Parvati will become a Seer because Trelawney says so. "She says I've got all the makings of a true Seer," she informed Harry and Ron... after the Divination exam in PoA. This is a far too good throw-away line to not become true in future books.
Lavender will die, because someone has to. No, wait, let me explain: I've always assumed that there are only those students in Harry's year, whom we have met in the books. But since Rowling insists that there are many more, I now assume that those, who are mentioned by name, must serve a purpose. And Lavender is good victim material.
(On a side note: I still prefer to think that there are only eight Gryffindor students in Harry's year, the reason being the dormitory: There are five beds in Harry's dorm, as stated repeatedly. There is also only one dorm for boys in Harry's year, because it is referred to as "the" dorm, and not "one of the" or "his". Oh dear, maths.)
ETA: Lavender and Parvati are not interchangeable.
Lavender is the one who cries over her dead bunny and is afraid of touching mice in Transfiguration. Parvati is the one who stands up to Draco and Snape, alongside Harry and Hermione: In PS, she is the only one apart from Harry to defend Neville against Draco in the Remembrall scene, and in PoA, she is the only one apart from Hermione and Harry to stand up to Snape in the DADA class. The girl's got potential!
Harry does not want to shag Snape.
No, he doesn't.
The "stringy" Slytherin boy who can see the Thestrals in the Care of Magical Creatures class is Blaise Zabini.
Because I think it's quite neat.
Dumbledore channels Granny Weatherwax.
Or vice versa. I am currently reading "A Hat Full of Sky" and Granny appears exactly the uber-witch to match Dumbledore's uber-wizard. Since we're seeing her through Tiffany's eyes, we don't know how much effort it costs Granny to maintain her uber-powers, and she appears almost superhuman. Had I encountered that Granny before I read the other novels, I would not have liked her and dismissed her as a flat and uninteresting character - possibly even an impossible one, like I dismissed Dumbledore. Now I think apologies are in order. Dumbledore supporters have been right all along, there is depth and character to be found behind the surface.
Yay for cross-novel reading!
PS. At some point, Granny's eyes actually twinkle!
I was going to watch "From Hell" tonight and swoon over Johnny Depp (because I've been swooning over him for a few weeks now, and why stop when I'm having so much fun?). But then I read
rosina_alcona's post on the hotness that is Mr. Darcy - and it made me crave the Darcy experience as well. So what should I do? I got my mind set on Johnny quite firmly. And he can do some damn hot smouldering, too!
I think "From Hell" it's going to be...
Remus has no scars.
This, I think, actually is canon. Sadly, movie!Remus has made quite an impact, and has resulted in fandom!Remus being a scarred cardigan-wearer. Movie!Remus, however, has nothing in common with my Remus, and has thus left my image of him unspoiled. I think that Harry would have mentioned the scars, had Remus had them. He mentions the lines and the grey hair many, many times, and, I dare say, scars stand out rather more prominently than wrinkles. Especially to a boy's eyes. (I'd like to see the teenager who notices wrinkles but doesn't notice big fat scars.) So no, my Lupin doesn't have them. (And no, he doesn't wear a cardigan, either.)
Remus hates Snape.
He hates him. Passionately. Snape makes his skin crawl.
Lavender will die and Parvati will become a Seer.
Parvati will become a Seer because Trelawney says so. "She says I've got all the makings of a true Seer," she informed Harry and Ron... after the Divination exam in PoA. This is a far too good throw-away line to not become true in future books.
Lavender will die, because someone has to. No, wait, let me explain: I've always assumed that there are only those students in Harry's year, whom we have met in the books. But since Rowling insists that there are many more, I now assume that those, who are mentioned by name, must serve a purpose. And Lavender is good victim material.
(On a side note: I still prefer to think that there are only eight Gryffindor students in Harry's year, the reason being the dormitory: There are five beds in Harry's dorm, as stated repeatedly. There is also only one dorm for boys in Harry's year, because it is referred to as "the" dorm, and not "one of the" or "his". Oh dear, maths.)
ETA: Lavender and Parvati are not interchangeable.
Lavender is the one who cries over her dead bunny and is afraid of touching mice in Transfiguration. Parvati is the one who stands up to Draco and Snape, alongside Harry and Hermione: In PS, she is the only one apart from Harry to defend Neville against Draco in the Remembrall scene, and in PoA, she is the only one apart from Hermione and Harry to stand up to Snape in the DADA class. The girl's got potential!
Harry does not want to shag Snape.
No, he doesn't.
The "stringy" Slytherin boy who can see the Thestrals in the Care of Magical Creatures class is Blaise Zabini.
Because I think it's quite neat.
Dumbledore channels Granny Weatherwax.
Or vice versa. I am currently reading "A Hat Full of Sky" and Granny appears exactly the uber-witch to match Dumbledore's uber-wizard. Since we're seeing her through Tiffany's eyes, we don't know how much effort it costs Granny to maintain her uber-powers, and she appears almost superhuman. Had I encountered that Granny before I read the other novels, I would not have liked her and dismissed her as a flat and uninteresting character - possibly even an impossible one, like I dismissed Dumbledore. Now I think apologies are in order. Dumbledore supporters have been right all along, there is depth and character to be found behind the surface.
Yay for cross-novel reading!
PS. At some point, Granny's eyes actually twinkle!
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I was going to watch "From Hell" tonight and swoon over Johnny Depp (because I've been swooning over him for a few weeks now, and why stop when I'm having so much fun?). But then I read
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I think "From Hell" it's going to be...
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Anyhow, facial scars make it way too easy for Hermione to figure it out, and everyone else looks like morons.
And no, no cardigans. *shudders*
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My Remus carried his scars on the inside!
And he looks very much like
Um, only just spotted the icon you're using now. Yep. That's Remus all right.
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Heh. I think it depends on the myth. It's not an aspect I'm particularly fond of, so I don't generally use it, though I wish he had some enhanced senses, like Oz on Buffy. Otoh, I think you could argue he probably does have various healing advantages because of what his body must go through every month, but that the one thing capable of inflicting damage would be himself (or another werewolf).
I also tend to think people would be more concerned with facial scarring, and make an effort to heal that up without marks, you know? And I like writing the bits about Sirius learning Remus's scars etc. *g*
I do agree with
Um, only just spotted the icon you're using now. Yep. That's Remus all right.
To me, too.
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Snape makes Remus skin crawl, but where to? Why can't it walk? Is it a cripple skin? Does it need a wheel chair?
I keep confusing Lavender and Parvati, so I don't care which one does what.
Yes, Harry does! I have just read a story in which he does it repeatedly! And who are you to argue with hot smut?
It's Zabini because we want at least that much to base our Gary Stu on. (And because we have heard of no other Slytherin boy that fits.)
Dumbledore isn't Granny. Granny would kick his arse for not getting said arse in gear and deal with Voldemort before it was too late. Nanny, on the other hand...
*hugs* Good to hear from you :)
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*will not start a wacko-thread based on this idea, will not, will not, will not...*
I keep confusing Lavender and Parvati, so I don't care which one does what.
Ah, you see, that is quite a mistake! Lavender is the one who cries over her dead bunny and is afraid of touching mice in Transfiguration. Parvati is the one who stands up to Draco and Snape, alongside Harry and Hermione: In PS, she is the only one apart from Harry to defend Neville against Draco in the Remembrall scene, and in PoA, she is the only one apart from Hermione and Harry to stand up to Snape in the DADA class. The girl's got potential!
And who are you to argue with hot smut?
All right, when you put it like this - I've nothing to say in my defense.
And because we have heard of no other Slytherin boy that fits.
There's Theodore Nott. But who cares about him?
Granny would kick his arse for not getting said arse in gear and deal with Voldemort before it was too late. Nanny, on the other hand...
Have you, by any chance, read
*hugs* Good to hear from you :)
Heh! I haven't seen you around for quite some time, either! *hugs right back* :-)
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*will not start a wacko-thread based on this idea, will not, will not, will not...*
Maybe it's the other way around: his uses the threads he picks off his old cardigans to make false moustaches because he cannot bear to part with them, even when they are in stitches.
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I think it is Theodore Nott, because in OotP at least Hermione knows who he is later in the book. Frankly, if Harry's year is as small as it seems, how come he doesn't know the name of someone who he's had class with for four *years*?
Dumbledore isn't Granny. Granny would kick his arse for not getting said arse in gear and deal with Voldemort before it was too late. Nanny, on the other hand...
Yes, Granny wouldn't have let Dumbledore get away with this crap once she knew what was going on -- and would smack Dumbledore around for it. Of course, Granny has a low opinion of wizards to start with.
Nanny-- yes, Nanny has some disturbing characteristics with Dumbledore now that I think of it. But even she knows Right from Wrong, and I'm not entirely sure Dumbledore does sometimes.
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I feel your pain, really, but this made me laugh out loud. Of all the things I thought might happen to fandom (and my concept of Remus) post-PoA movie, this was not one, and it never ceases to amuse me.
Also, I agree with
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I'm dealing with it *g* Wasn't it you who said that movie!Remus didn't affect you much because you didn't have a strong Remus voice to begin with? I seem to remember having read it on someone's LJ, and I thought it was you, as the thread was mainly Peter-centred.
As I said on my comment to
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Because I think it's quite neat.
I just had a disagreement with a rl friend about this an hour ago! She's hoping it will be a "good" Slytherin, and I said, "It's Blaise!" and she said, "NOOOOOOO!"
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Why did she say, "NOOOOOO!"? Doesn't she like poor, over-used Blaise?
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And the cane! OMG, the cane! *cries* Fandom has been poisoned. I Do Not Like the cardigan. I wanted robes! I wanted to see amazing, gritty-real costumes. Instead I got a 'Lupin' with too much fat to be a penniless werewolf, a Sirius with unmatted hair (HELLO, no comb for 12 years!), and a children's-movie 'prison' outfit. Gimme a break.
There's an entry hereon the Lexicon saying that there may be two unidentified female students in Harry's year, but also an editor's note saying that there's not (unclear) because of the roll of DA members.
The throwaway line bit about Lavender makes some sense, and I like the idea of someone as a Seer, but I think it's Ron. Lavender does seem a bit extraneous, and Rowling doesn't do much of anything without a reason. Yes, she makes mistakes, but she has to cut way too much stuff to keep the word count down to waste anything in her books.
Still wondering if Lupin is really allergic to silver or not. He encounters it twice in OotP:
1. The doorknocker after the advance gaurd retrieves Harry, and
2. The goblet at Grimmauld Place that he holds but lowers 'looking wary.'
I also believe that Harry is a natural metamorphmagus. Rowling invested way to much page space in Tonks for her not to have a purpose. Lupin could have taken so many of her lines! Adapted, of course, and damn, but I wanted him to.
Sorry to hijack your journal like this, I think that was a rant. Yup, that was definitely a rant.
-Corrie
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I fully agree on the werewolf. It was ridiculous. I could have lived (though grudgingly) with a completely not-wolflike looking monster if only it looked, well, more like a scary monster and not like a sad computer-generated something.
As the the cane, I have posted a (not quite serious) theory once, which resulted in some very scary discussions here. The cardigan was all wrong; I wanted robes, too. Shabby, patched robes that would make him look poor and skinny and underfed.
As I said in the post, I think that the minor characters who get mentioned will fulfil some more important roles in future. But, as I likewise said, these theories are completely random and not absolutely canon-founded. But there must be a Seer in Harry's generation. Too much effort has been put into establishing prophecies as important.
I don't think Lupin is allergic to silver. For no particular reason, simply because - as you said - he seems to encounter it on a fairly regular basis. There's still the matter of Peter's hand, but using that hand against Remus would be quite tacky, from a literary point of view.
Plus, I've got a WIP, where the silver theory is exploited, and I need either to finish the fic before Rowling says that silver hurts werewolves or I'll end up writing an AU.
Harry being a Metamorhagus would give him yet another unique talent, and he's already 'blessed' with several. I dunno... I'm not sure what to think about the whole Metamorphagus business, though, and I don't really care either way.
Lupin could have taken so many of her lines! Adapted, of course, and damn, but I wanted him to.
I'm with you on that one :-)
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I think it's Luna. She acts just like Trelawney does, only it's for real. My theory is that Trelawney heard stories about her great-great-grandmother acting that way and decided that's the way true Seers act, so she started acting that way, too. Luna is also very eccentric and seems to know things other characters don't, so I think she's the real thing.
Or it could just be that it fits in with my time-traveling!Sirius theory for Luna to be a Seer and that's why I'm hoping it's true. Heh.
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(Don't get me wrong, Lavender _is_ a wimp. Just not because of that. *g*)
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I am secretly quite fond of Parvati and so I resent the concept that Parvati and Lavender are, like, one silly, giggling, air-headed entity. Yes, they're fond of Trelawney, who is not a good teacher. But: is Hagrid (as much as I love him) a better one? And who's standing up for him time and again?
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You make good points about Lavender and Parvati. I'm a Parvati fan too, and I think she's been quite "misunderestimated" up to now. She's pretty and she's girly and she giggles a lot, but beneath all that is a brave and capable witch. Don't forget she reduced a table to dust with her Reductor curse in OOtP, too.
I wonder if Lavender is going to be one of those tempted to the Dark Side and dying for her foolishness (a-la Regulus Black)? I looked up the symbolism of "lavender" on a floral-names website and learned it symbolizes "distrust" because snakes are said to hide beneath it. And what a twist that would be. Girlish, squeamish Lavender as the current Evil Gryffindor (I actually surmise she and Seamus might both be the current crop of Evil Gryffs). No one would suspect her.
Hagrid is actually a much worse teacher than Trelawney. Trelawney is a poseur and a ditz, but she's never actually harmed her students. Hagrid, on the other hand, has put them in physical danger several times with Buckbeak and the Skrewts. Then there's Grawp, who is lurking out there, still a danger to
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Exactly. I don't remember when I started liking Parvati, but at some point I realised that she is that sort of normal girl which I most likely have been. I like the fact that she swoons over Firenze, for exaple: Seeing as I swoon over a fictional werewolf, I don't feel as though I'm in the position to criticise her crushes. And Parvati is very outspoken against unjustice, as in the scenes with Draco and Snape that I mentioned.
I looked up the symbolism of "lavender" on a floral-names website and learned it symbolizes "distrust" because snakes are said to hide beneath it.
Wow. Yes, that certainly seems relevant. Lavender could go over to the Dark side first and then die. But I must admit, I don't care much about her, really.
As to Seamus, I think he had already had his share of being on the wrong side in OotP. If he went over to Voldemort, it would be a little bit, I don't know... obvious? Tacky? The guy who thought Harry's story was outrageous (quite understandably so, IMO; he was genuinely interested in Harry's story in OotP, and it was due to Harry's less than sensible reaction that Seamus reacted the way he did) would also end up as the guy who ended up as the baddie - not the solution I would wish for.
I like Hagrid. But as teacher go, he is not exactly suitable. I think that he would be an excellent tutor to some individually selected students (Charlie Weasley, and also Sirius, I could imagine), however.
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I base this theory on the fact that (a)a lot of hits have been dropped about death, finding out the nature of death, the ghosts etc and (b)talking to the dead is an occult practise that hasn't turned up in the books yet, so there's got to be some place for it.
As for your theories, I don't think Thewlis looked like Remus (my image of him was more skinny and pointy-faced, like a fox or - hey! - a wolf). Also, canon mentions robes, not cardies. I also agree with you that a Gryffindor student in Harry's year is going to die. It just makes sense. But I theorised that it would be Seamus or Dean, not that your suggestion of Lavender doesn't make me consider that.
However, I don't think people "become" seers. I think one is born with the power, or not, which is why Albus wanted to do away with the subject - there's no point.
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I am very pleased to see that there are still many people in the fandom who haven't adapted the image of Thewlis' Lupin as the real Lupin. It seems to me as though fandom has been flooded by moustached, scarred, cardigan-wearing Remuses since the release of the film. Lupin is thin and wears robes. Yes.
I think people "become" Seers as they have their talents discovered and developed. Parvati (and it'll be Parvati for me unless Rowling tells me it's really Neville) has the "makings of a true Seer", but she needs help and tutoring to become a fully-fledged Seer. And I'm not sure Trelawney is the right person to offer the necessary tutoring.
On the other hand, Trelawney might be a failure herself, but she might have the theoretical know-how and be able to help Parvati develop her abilities. Who knows?
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1. His dad's a widow, which JKR has gone out of her way to tell us (on her website, which has an awful lot devoted to this seemingly unimportant character).
2. He's been mentioned more than once. Unlike Blaise.
3. Based on his buddying up to Malfoy at the end of OotP, we're gonna see a lot more of him. The thestral scene was a good subtle introduction, or something.
Also, I think Trelawney is full of crap, so I can't quite buy the Parvati=seer theory. I do think she's got a bigger role to play, though.
Completely in agreement about Lupin.
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Also, I think Trelawney is full of crap, so I can't quite buy the Parvati=seer theory.
See, that's exactly why I like it. Trelawney herself has no idea that her conjection is right. No-one (students nor readers) pays any attention to what she says. The "makings of a true Seer" line has never attracted any attention. It'd be great if it turned out to be true, simply because it'd be quite unexpected.
Plus, I like Parvati.
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I agree with
Also, according to her site, Nott is sort of a loner and doesn't smarm up to Malfoy's crowd, and the stringy boy seemed loner-ish to me. Plus the fact that he can see Thestrals indicates that he's not like Malfoy (a pampered little boy hidden away at the manor when some nasty DE killing is going on), and well, Nott fits. He has a DE father, and we haven't heard of a DE named Zabini yet.
I liked Thewlis, but visualising any of the actors makes me shudder, besides the fact that I already had mental images of them before that contradict the movies. I don't like the movies anyway, since they deviate so much from canon. Robes, please! And that werewolf was just... pathetic.
My pet theory is that Lucius Malfoy will be set free from Azkaban and become Minister for Magic. And that he's not completely loyal to Voldemort. I dunno why, it just seems like the sort of thing JKR would do, to make their lives even worse. I found it laughable that people were actually suggesting Arthur would get the job (and she has since discredited it on her site, yay).
/rambling
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Well, as I said to
besides the fact that I already had mental images of them before that contradict the movies
So did I. I love Remus, and I had a very strong mental image of him, which is totally not like movie Remus. I wouldn't really mind Thewlis' visualisation of the characters so much, because I can well ignore it. However, after the movie was release, fandom was flooded by fics and art based on movie!Remus. The cardigan did to Lupin what the cane had previously done to Lucius: It's somehow part of his characterisation. And the werewolf was pathetic, yes.
And that he's not completely loyal to Voldemort.
I am absolutely indifferent about Lucius Malfoy. But I do think that he is loyal to Voldemort as long as he benefits from Voldemort's plans. I don't think that he is devoted to Voldemort in the same way that Bellatrix is (who is plainly obsessed). But Voldemort promises something that Lucius cannot resist. - It is quite obvious to me that Voldemort promises immortality. We know that he has spent years of his life to search for the key to immortality, and that he succeeded, if only partly. His supporters are called Death Eaters. And yes, I think that is quite enough to tempt Lucius Malfoy - who is obviously rather fond of power - to join Voldemort's ranks. The stuff with torturing Muggles and promoting purity of blood are mere additions, but the main purpose is the achieving of immortality.
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