Re: That "Accidental brushing of groins" thing

[donnaimmaculata]

Seriously, how likely is it to occur? I keep reading it in fics, but as far as I can tell from my own experience, it's not easy to brush a guy's groin accidentally. Not when pressed against him in a crowd (or, in case of Sirius/Remus fics, in some tiny alcove or other when hiding from Filch), not on a dancefloor, and not when kissing him. (This might be, of course, because most men are somewhat taller than I am, and in order to kiss me they have to bend down, thus bringing their groins out of my reach.) I mean, most people don't deliberately push their pelvises (pelvii?) forward in non-sexual situations, and when bumping into someone, you usually end up pressed against their chest or stomach; the groin is a fairly well protected region.

So, does any of you have different experiences? Am I merely blissfully (and stupidly) oblivious of all those hard-ons that have poked into my stomach over the years? Or does it work better when both partners are roughly the same height?

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[contrariwise.livejournal.com]

Oh, it's possible. *g* When the guy's around the same height as you, it's very possible during kissing. And I imagine it's even more possible without boobs to get in the way. heh.

That said, it's more likely the 'brushing' isn't groin to groin, but groin to thigh or hip, or some such. If the guy's wearing something loose and somewhat lightweight (wizard robes?) and he's got an erection, all sorts of accidental-ish brushing can happen. Of course, if he's hard, he's probably either a) trying to brush against the other person accidentally-on-purpose, or b) trying desperately to hide it, thus lessening the possibility of real accidental brushes.

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[donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com]

Well, my question aimed at really, honestly accidental brushing. I mean, if you bump into someone, in all innocence *g*

When the guy's around the same height as you, it's very possible during kissing.

I brought up the kissing example, because it occured to me after some particularly, er, intense snogging recently, that, unless we pull each other towards each other deliberately, I have no occasion to feel his erection. No way. But, as I said, it's partly due to the difference in height. And you're right about the boobs, of course *g*

If the guy's wearing something loose and somewhat lightweight (wizard robes?) and he's got an erection, all sorts of accidental-ish brushing can happen.

But, I don't think they're naked under those loose robes they wear. And it's not as though an erection would protrude when constricted by underwear.

I think some field research is in order.

[frankie-lee.livejournal.com]

Just my own observations here, but... erm... Back in high school I used to hug people (particularly hot boys) "hips first" and when they were boys my own height, it wasn't so much an accidental groin brushing but a fully-intentional grind.

So, if you use quotation marks around the word accidental-- one of the participants is aiming-- or if the guy has a raging errection without the underwear on to contain it, then yes, it's technically possible. If the two people fall on each other, landing on the ground (or couch or table, etc), then it's a lot more likey to be a true accident.

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[donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com]

Back in high school I used to hug people (particularly hot boys) "hips first" and when they were boys my own height, it wasn't so much an accidental groin brushing but a fully-intentional grind.

Ah yes! *grins* That's quite understandable. But, as you say, it's got to be deliberate 'hips first' grinding to make it work. Because men's torses are tapered and the groin is not within reach when not pushed forward.

If the two people fall on each other, landing on the ground (or couch or table, etc), then it's a lot more likey to be a true accident.

That is about the only situation when I could see it happen truly accidentally.

[cave-canem.livejournal.com]

I think it helps if neither party has breasts and if both have legs of relatively the same length. I'm as tall as many of the men I worked with in theater and in dark stage wings, there's quite a lot of accidental bumping of bits. (And not so accidental, but when the show was on, we were all fairly serious.)

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[donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com]

if both have legs of relatively the same length.

Ah, yes, I believe that helps.

there's quite a lot of accidental bumping of bits

Sounds like an, ah, interesting job you've got there *g*

Still, I think that it seldom occurs purely accidentally, especially among men, who tend to be wary of touching each other. I fully believe in semi-accidental touching. But under normal circumstances, a man would get to some length to not get his bits anywhere near another man. It is probably different if it's a woman he might brush against.

Of course, I'm aware that we're writing about men who get it on with each other. But I was thinking of the specific scenario where the guys haven't thought of each other in that way before, and then they happen to bump into each other and - well, it all ends up rated NC-17.

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[cave-canem.livejournal.com]

Sounds like an, ah, interesting job you've got there *g*

It was part of my theater coursework for about 10 years. Memorable experiences abounded. laughs

I think you're right that straight men probably avoid bumping bits as I've noticed they tend to "fold" on themselves a bit to avoid it, but in the scnearios you listed (like Remus and Sirius hiding in a nook pressed close together) where the guys are at least casual about touching other men if not openly attracted to men, it's possible.

I don't, however, think that the first response most men have to accidental bit bumping is "Oh do me, baby!" -- usually, their first thought is something like "oh thank god it didn't get hit harder." I think that in a non-erotic situation, bit-bumping is more likely to engender flinching away, startlement, or given that they're English, a somewhat flustered apology and rearranging of limbs. The boy-boy implications might cross their minds when thinking back on the situation though.