What's a Mary Sue?
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aldalindil's It's All Been Done Fest with the pairing Lupin/OFC. Now, I consider all OFCs whose major (or sole) purpose is to shag the male character the author finds attractive a Mary Sue, regardless of how well she's written. I mean, no-one writes an OFC who ends up with Hagrid, right? They all get their chance with Snape/Black/Lupin/Harry/Draco. I don't mind such Mary Sues, either. I have read and enjoyed very well written ones, but still, following the definition of Mary Sue = author's self insert, I do think they are Mary Sues.
So what do you think? Does Mary Sue refer merely to half-elven, half-unicorn American transfer student with super special mega powers and a dark secret? Or is every OFC who shags the author's crush a Mary Sue?
And here, gacked from everyone and their sister, the Hottest Pairings Ever:
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I actually read the Trevor/Voldemort one. It makes sense. Really.
aldalindil's It's All Been Done Fest with the pairing Lupin/OFC. Now, I consider all OFCs whose major (or sole) purpose is to shag the male character the author finds attractive a Mary Sue, regardless of how well she's written. I mean, no-one writes an OFC who ends up with Hagrid, right? They all get their chance with Snape/Black/Lupin/Harry/Draco. I don't mind such Mary Sues, either. I have read and enjoyed very well written ones, but still, following the definition of Mary Sue = author's self insert, I do think they are Mary Sues.So what do you think? Does Mary Sue refer merely to half-elven, half-unicorn American transfer student with super special mega powers and a dark secret? Or is every OFC who shags the author's crush a Mary Sue?
And here, gacked from everyone and their sister, the Hottest Pairings Ever:
| Hottest "Gods I hate you, let's shag NOW!" pairing: | Snape/Black |
| Hottest "All about teh Luff" pairing: | Padfoot/Crookshanks |
| Hottest "Kinky beyond reason" pairing: | Voldemort/Trevor |
| Hottest "This is so very sick but I LOVE it" pairing: | Dobby/Draco |
| Hottest "OMFG this is so illegal" pairing: | Dudley/Aunt Marge |
| Hottest "Master and Slave" pairing: | Albus/Argus |
| Hottest "Morally ambiguous" pairing: | Bill/Ginny |
| Hottest "So effing CLICHE, but I don't care" pairing: | Harry/Ginny |
| Hottest "Father and Son bonding taken to the next level" pairing: | Tom Riddle Sen./Tom Riddle Jr. |
| Hottest Threesome pairing: | Sirius/Severus/Remus |
| Hottest "The more the merrier" pairing (orgy): | Sirius/Severus/Remus/Bill/Kingsley |
| Hottest "We're just friends that happen to shag" pairing: | Sirius/Remus |
| Hottest "WTF that would NEVER happen" pairing: | Minerva/Sirius |
| Hottest "First Time" pairing: | Sirius/Harry |
| Hottest "They're both so deliciously evil" pairing: | Bellatrix/Mrs. Black |
The Harry Potterverse Pairings Survey brought to you by BZOINK!
I actually read the Trevor/Voldemort one. It makes sense. Really.
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Date: 2004-01-19 08:18 pm (UTC)I asked for it. You're right, it was original. Woog...
consider Ginny or Tonks Mary Sue stereotypes
Yes, but are they (neither character being half-elven etc.) a direct characture of the author? A stereotype is a stereotype is a two-dimensional character, but a Mary Sue is... never mind, I've already said.
I've never thought of them as Mary Sues, only as not having enough screen-time to be fully developed.
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Date: 2004-01-19 08:52 pm (UTC)Heh! The fandom needs fresh ideas.
I've never thought of them as Mary Sues, only as not having enough screen-time to be fully developed.
Neither have I. But I know there are people who have. So that's basically what I mean - there are countless interpretations of Mary Sues. Original characters alongside fanfic OFCs are outed as Mary Sues all over the place. I was curious what my flist thinks about it.
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Date: 2004-01-19 10:37 pm (UTC)Am off to review the replies on your entry. BTW, sorry about the multiple posts-- I've just deleted the extras.
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Date: 2004-01-19 11:33 pm (UTC)