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...And already there are "Oh no, poor Snape has been forced by evil Dumbledore to continue teaching Harry!!!11" vibes. But look at it logically: We want Dumbledore to force Snape to continue teaching Harry. Because the books are written from Harry's perspective. If Snape no longer teaches Harry, there will be less Snape in the books.

Unless, of course, one doesn't care for canon!Snape, because Rowling has no grasp of his character anyway.

Date: 2005-03-08 08:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
I love your icon!

(And you're right of course, unless Snape gets to teach DADA instead.)

Date: 2005-03-08 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
Ah, Teh Vetinari Luv!

Call me conservative, but I rather like the established potions-in-the-gloomy-dungeons setting. Snape as DADA teacher simply wouldn't be the same.

Date: 2005-03-08 08:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
I'm completely with you on Snape and Potions, but a reluctant DADA teacher Snape who just wants to get back to his cauldrons would be pretty funny.

Dumbledore: "No, Severus, you may loathe all that foolish wand-waving as much as you like, but Potter didn't make the Advanced class in Potions, and you need to remain his teacher. I'm afraid it really can't be helped, dear boy - you're needed there."

Snape: *loathes Potter more than ever and plots to have him killed by a little something in his pumpkin juice*

Date: 2005-03-08 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
Funny, though, how Snape has continued to apply for the DADA job for the last four (?) years. He really wants to be teaching Harry forever and ever.

Snape (outwardly): "Very well, Headmaster, I shall do as you wish. But don't hold me responsible if something, ah, unexpected happens to Potter. The boy's never understood the subtle danger of the Dark Arts."

Snape (inwardly): "Whee!"

Am I turning into a Snarry shipper? Oh dear.

Date: 2005-03-08 08:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
Don't squick me, please! Snape/Harry is the one pairing I absolutely cannot stomach.

I'm sure there is something coming about Snape's application for the DADA job, and I suppose if he really wants it that'll mean he won't get it, and vice versa. (No, I don't have much faith in JKR being nice to Snape for a change!)

Date: 2005-03-08 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
We know that he wants the job because he admitted having applied for it. I don't know why I dislike the idea of Snape's becoming the new DADA teacher so much. Probably because it feels like an exaggeration of the classic fanfic scenario with the Mysterious-Sword-Wielding-And-Curse-Breaking-Slim-Yet-Curvy new DADA teacher or the return of Lupin as DADA teacher. I think whoever gets the job should be an outsider and new to us, as usual. Did I mention I'm conservative?

Date: 2005-03-08 09:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
Many people seem to assume Snape only pretends to actually want it for some spy-related reason. Personally I'm undecided on the matter, but somehow I find it hard to imagine the man who waxed poetical about the beauty of the simmering cauldron actually wanting to teach foolish wand-waving instead. Perhaps JKR will soon give us a reason.

And I'm rather tired of the fact that every time someone tries to introduce a new adult character he/she always winds up being the new DADA prof, so I wouldn't mind that pattern broken by giving the job to a familiar character instead!

Date: 2005-03-08 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
He seemed genuinely upset when Umbridge mentioned his futile attempts to get the job. Then again, being genuinely upset is his default state...

I can see JKR's and Dumbledore's explanation that giving Snape the DADA job would be the same as giving an alcoholic the key to the liquor cabinet, though.

I like the new DADA teachers; they're entertaining. But you've got a point about the introduction of new characters vs old faces in general: I, for example, was irritated by the sheer number of new characters who were introduced as Order members and who served no purpose whatsoever. OK, some of them are going to die, but we didn't have to meet them in person for that. I would much rather have seen some established characters more fleshed out; i.e. Bill. - For whom I had great hopes when I learned he came back from Egypt and who disappeared mysteriously after the second half of the book.

Obviously, I am unable to hold a conversation about any HP character without mentioning Bill or Remus at some point.

Date: 2005-03-08 08:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
...because Rowling has no grasp of his character anyway.

Hee! I don't know why this is making me laugh so much, but it is. *g*

Date: 2005-03-08 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
If it helps - I'm surprised, too. I had no idea of it's being funny *g*

Date: 2005-03-08 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gmth.livejournal.com
I thought it was funny, too... I assumed you were joking. If not, well, it's a very odd statement.

Date: 2005-03-08 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
Half-joking, really. I was referring to those people who claim that they would write Snape much better than Rowling does. I have come across such comments, and they always strike me as a bit odd.

What I meant is, I didn't expect it to be funny as in making someone laugh. I'd rather have expected to elicit a weak grin, if anything. Ah, the joys of online conversation.

Date: 2005-03-08 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gmth.livejournal.com
Ah, cool. Whew. I agree that those statements from people claiming to be able to write Snape better than Rowling are silly, and that's what I thought you were trying to say. Glad to learn I was wrong. :-)

Date: 2005-03-08 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
Ah, this is the reason why I usually abuse emoticons, especially ;-)'s and *g*'s. I'm glad we clarified that *g*

Date: 2005-03-08 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fraught.livejournal.com
less Snape in the books.

From your mouth to JKR's ears.

*flees from Snape fans*

Date: 2005-03-08 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
Heh!

Snape is needed for One Final Sacrifice in the Last Battle. And Harry needs someone to hate, the poor boy.

Date: 2005-03-08 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptyx.livejournal.com
It's true. I'm willing to give JKR a go ;)

Date: 2005-03-08 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
Whatever she might do to him - the fans understand his motives better in any case ;-)

Date: 2005-03-08 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptyx.livejournal.com
You know, I have no major complaints about her characterisation of Snape. I think he's more consistent than Sirius, Dumbledore and Hermione, for instance. But I don't know what will happen if JKR tries to explain him. Probably half of us Snapefans won't like it. He can easily become too fluffy or too evil. Part of Snape's charm is his mystery. (I know some fans don't agree, but that's how I see him.)

Date: 2005-03-08 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
What I love about the HP universe is that there are so many fascinating characters, who are not in the focus of the story and who are not explained in depth. In other words: Her supporting cast is great to play with. We have just enough to speculate about the characters' backgrounds and motives.

I don't want her to explain too much about her characters. It would be nice to see more of some less important characters with potential, but I don't want to know too much about, say, Remus or Snape. It's like the great shipping debate. The fun thing is to try to come up with different pairings and scenarios, all of which have a foundation in canon. If she told us how it really is, there would be nothing left to play with.

And Snape's mystery is definitely, definitely a great part of Snape's charm. I love this guy for not letting me know his true self ;-)

Date: 2005-03-08 09:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] swatkat24.livejournal.com
Oh! The cover! *does happy Snapelove dance*

Swatkat

Date: 2005-03-08 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
Imagine Snape with that book in his hands, trailing his fingers lovingly along its spine...

Date: 2005-03-09 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babycakesin.livejournal.com
who cares - Sirius is gone... *swings vodka bottle* gooooone! *sobs*

[/weird]

plus we might have a chance, through Snape, to see more of the marauders. so yeah, go Snape! *waves flags in manga-like way*

Date: 2005-03-09 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
And Remus is about to go *sobs* Yes, I'm prepared for the worst.

Snape still has to tell us What Really Happened That Night when Sirius sent him after Remus.

Date: 2005-03-11 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babycakesin.livejournal.com
And Remus is about to go
*takes mourning outfit out of the closet*
Remuuuuuus *sobs*

Snape still has to tell us What Really Happened That Night when Sirius sent him after Remus.
they shagged. *nods*

Date: 2005-03-11 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
they shagged

Of course. How silly of me to forget that.

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