Silencio

Mar. 30th, 2005 10:44 am
[personal profile] donnaimmaculata
So, the Silencing Charm is used in Hogwarts dormitories so that the students can indulge in some quiet wanking or shagging. But is that canon? I don't remember that sort of Silencing Charm existing in the books. (Also, I am not a great fan of it. If drowning out any sounds were that simple, Harry could easily prevent Ron from hearing his nightmares, and IIRC this is something he worries about in OotP.) The only Silencing Charm I can think of is the one cast on living creatures (bullfrogs and ravens) in Flitwick's class. Somehow, the idea of Harry and Ron casting Silencing Charms on each other before wanking each other off is oddly appealing. Has anyone ever used it in a fic? (Doesn't have to be Harry and Ron, though.)

Date: 2005-03-30 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archon-mentha.livejournal.com
I've seen it a couple of times in R/S fic, but not exactly as you're describing...only one partner was silenced. Silencio was used in place of a gag; the fics were (very) mild D/s kink.

Unfortunately, my brain is completely fried because I can't remember what they are called...

Date: 2005-03-30 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
See, I don't remember having ever come across it. It's such an obvious choice, if you think about it, especially in D/s fics.

...Your Kingsley icon is teh sexx.

Date: 2005-03-30 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archon-mentha.livejournal.com
It's such an obvious choice, if you think about it, especially in D/s fics.

It really is strange for it to be so rare. *thinks* Then again, I prefer your scenario for using this spell to any kind of D/s one. For D/s, I like the visual image of the gag and the action of putting it in place. I don't see a silencing spell having that same overall effect...

But if Harry and Ron use a silencing spell on each other while messing around - unable to talk, but seeing the other's expressions - that would add something very hot and intimate to the scene. I really hope you do decide to write it! ^__^

...Your Kingsley icon is teh sexx.

Thanks! *g* I'd give up my religion, if I had one, for Taye Diggs. (I tried to find a picture of the shower scene from 'How Stella Got her Groove Back', but so far, no luck.)
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Date: 2005-04-28 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archon-mentha.livejournal.com
*g* Here's a little bit more of him, for the interested...

Date: 2005-03-30 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosina-alcona.livejournal.com
(Doesn't have to be Harry and Ron, though.)

oh yes it bloody well does, now that that picture is in my head!

Yes, the 'silencio' spell is thrown around quite a lot, and works well for pwps (I'm almost positive I've used it at some point) but I don't think it's canon used that way.

Date: 2005-03-30 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
Imagine them pulling the right sort of (orgasmic) grimaces but not making any sound. It's just like in a 70s porn film, where sex scenes are underlaid with cheap Boom Chica Boom music.

Not that Ron/Harry porn was in any way cheap.

Date: 2005-03-30 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosina-alcona.livejournal.com
as Paris Hilton would say: that's hot.

My ex used to have a brilliant video of some 70s german porn with exactly that scenario, right down to the boom chica boom music (with additional wah-wah guitars)

Date: 2005-03-30 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
I downloaded a clip from a prettyboy 70s porn film recently (for research purposes!), which features some great boom chica boom music. As an additional bonus, the video clip is much longer than the song, and so the same song is repeated some four or five times in a row. I assume the film makers didn't expect anyone to be bothered by the repetitive character of the music if they can watch pretty boys getting it on.

Date: 2005-03-30 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oakwonder.livejournal.com
"No, no, Ron, it's levio-o-osa..."

Date: 2005-03-30 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
I bet they would learn the spells much more quickly if they figured out that they can be used for improving their sex lives.

Date: 2005-03-30 07:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] florahart
Yeah, I've invented a *muffling* charm for silencing sound from leaving an area; in canon silencio causes the person not to MAKE sound, not, sound to not escape the (bed).

The Remus/Severus I wrote last week or two weeks ago (?) involved the useof one partner silencing the other. Okay, two weeks: <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/florahart/181042.html>Here</a>.

Date: 2005-03-30 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] masterofmystery.livejournal.com
'Silencio' is used to make things silent, like another person, but to like block out sounds the Imperturbable Charm is used, like how Molly Weasley used in 12 Grimmauld Place in OotP to block out any sounds from the meeting so that the children wouldn't listen. I'll show you.

Chapter 4 - 'Number twelve, Grimmauld Place'

"You want to be careful," said Ron, staring at the ear. "If Mum sees one of them again..."
"It's worth the risk, that's a major meeting they're having," said Fred.
The door opened and a long mane of red hair appeared.
"Oh hello, Harry!" said Ron's younger sister, Ginny, brightly. "I thought I heard your voice."
Turning to Fred and George she said, "It's no go with the Extendable Ears, she's gone and put an Imperturbable Charm on the kitchen door."
"How d'you know?" said George, looking crestfallen.
"Tonks told me how to find out," said Ginny. "You just chuck stuff at the door and if it can't make contact the door's been Imperturbed. I've been flicking Dungbombs at it from the top of the stairs and they just soar away from it, so there's no way the Extendable Ears will be able to get under the gap."


From dictionary.com:

imperturbable

adj : not easily perturbed or excited or upset; marked by extreme calm and composure; "hitherto imperturbable, he now showed signs of alarm"; "an imperturbable self-possession"; "unflappable in a crisis" [syn: unflappable]

You can just use that instead of the Silencing Charm, and it makes loads more sense. I always do. ;)

Date: 2005-03-30 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbmargarita.livejournal.com
Actually, from this context
"You just chuck stuff at the door and if it can't make contact the door's been Imperturbed. I've been flicking Dungbombs at it from the top of the stairs and they just soar away from it, so there's no way the Extendable Ears will be able to get under the gap."

It sounds like imperturbable blocks objects which is why the Extendable Ears can't get to them. I assume it would also block someone walking up and sticking their own actual ear on the door. However I also assume that if you were inside the room making lots of noise--moaning and groaning and bedsprings squeaking and all that-- it would have no effect whatsoever on what someone walking by could hear. It keeps things out, not in, which is not exactly your typical silencing charm. Doesn't mean it still couldn't be used in certain situations, I just personally would be wary of using it for a blanket 'silencing charm' situation. :)

Date: 2005-03-30 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] masterofmystery.livejournal.com
I figured it was objects too, but I doubt if the kids went up to the door and listened they would hear anything. I reckon that along with blocking objects it blocks humans, and therefore they can't get close enough to hear anyway?

Date: 2005-03-30 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbmargarita.livejournal.com
I reckon that along with blocking objects it blocks humans, and therefore they can't get close enough to hear anyway?

Yeah exactly, in that case anyway. But in the case of a dorm bed or something, curtains not being as thick as a door and all that, you might be able to stand across the room and still hear it, and so it would not be the effective spell to use.

And anyway, even if they didn't hear anything, if they tried to walk next to the bed and found themselves mysteriously being deflected to the center of the room... something would definitely be suspicious ;)

Date: 2005-03-30 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jan-aq.livejournal.com
It might also block sound waves. :)

Date: 2005-03-31 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbmargarita.livejournal.com
Again, it only demonstrably blocks objects from the outside. It could be that it blocks objects (sounds waves, etc) from the inside from escaping as well, but I wouldn't assume that from the Imperturbable name, though I wouldn't quibble with a fanfic writer who wanted to.

Date: 2005-03-30 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ssecca01.livejournal.com
Yeah. The imperturbable is also what Hermione casts on Harry's glasses in third year to repel the rain during the quiditch match. The incantation was 'impervious'.

Date: 2005-03-30 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] masterofmystery.livejournal.com
I don't think they were the same spell, though. I think it was said in um, the fifth book that it was the Impervious Charm, specifically. Angelina mentioned it before a game.

Date: 2005-03-30 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefreshchuff.livejournal.com
The Silencing Charm was in OotP, they were preforming it on bullfrogs in Charms. I don't know the pages and am not about to go through 700+ pages looking for it, but I know for a fact that it's canon, I read it not a week ago. :)

Date: 2005-03-30 07:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lavinialavender.livejournal.com
Quite right - bullfrogs and ravens.

...this is why I have my [livejournal.com profile] canon_evidence community. *leneglectedsigh*

Date: 2005-03-31 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardustmajick.livejournal.com
Hermione used it on the Death Eater that knocked her out toward the end, too.

Date: 2005-03-30 07:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jetamors.livejournal.com
*wanders in from d_s*

According to the Lexicon, Silencio is used twice in OotP and mentioned in FB. (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/magic/spells_s.html) It seems to be a fifth-year spell.

Date: 2005-03-30 08:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] midnitemaraud-r.livejournal.com
Silencio is used to mute a voice, as was pointed out.

How could they cast it on each other though - unless they do it simultaneously - because if one is silenced, he can't cast the charm on the other. And would they bounce off each other and hit something else if cast simultaneously? (Hermione and Goyle was it? - being hit with Harry and Draco's curses in GoF) Which brings up the next point - it would be impossible to 'uncast' it as well since they can't speak!

In the D/s scenario, that kind of moots the point of a safe word, don't you think? (Not having any experience with gags, I have no idea how that would work there either... O_o )

I see someone mentioned the Imperturbable charm - If it didn't block out sound, too, the kids should have been able to at least hear murmurs coming from behind the door that the extendible ears would have picked up. I can't see that Order meetings would be conducted in whispers, and you have to think that there were likely arguments from people - like Sirius - when decisions were made that they didn't like. They may all be on the same side, but few are concilatory by nature.

Of course if silencing spells in general were so common, you'd think they'd be used more often. Perhaps they're NEWT level. I personally don't like capitalizing Silencing Spell/Charm, because that implies that there's only the one. And in the case of smut, a Silencio isn't going to stop the bed from rocking or the springs from squeaking!

Date: 2005-03-30 08:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] midnitemaraud-r.livejournal.com
Oh - you asked if we've ever used them in fic! Yes - I have. I made them up with the help of a latin generator.

Once again he vowed to research some silencing spells. The Insonitus charm his parents had taught him – the one they used at home when outside noises kept him awake – worked on solid surfaces, like doors, walls and windows but apparently had no effect on bedcurtains and draperies. He’d researched the Tacitus charm and thought that might work, but it was an O.W.L. level charm. The wand movement was rather complex, and the book’s description wasn’t very helpful. He’d have to ask Professor Flitwick about it after their next Charms class.

Then again, I'm of the opinion that considering the general lack of knowledge of Muggle gadgets and scientific principles, they probably have charms and spells for a LOT of things!

Date: 2005-03-31 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sidial.livejournal.com
Spells can be cast without words, they are just likely to be weaker.

Date: 2005-03-30 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixtoh.livejournal.com
At last, when the Irish team had left the box to perform another lap of honor on their brooms (Aidan Lynch on the back of Connolly's, clutching hard around his waist and still grinning in a bemused sort of way), Bagman pointed his wand at his throat and muttered, "Quietus."
--Goblet of Fire, chapter 10 (p.116)

Now, that was after his voice had been amplified. What if you were to do that to someone whose voice was at a normal decibel? Would that pretty much silence them?

I have the feeling this is nowhere near what you were looking for.

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