On Ginny

Sep. 17th, 2005 03:52 pm
[personal profile] donnaimmaculata
Apparently, there are those who say that Harry only went for Ginny because she's Lily II. Regardless on whether or not this is true - would that be that bad if the boy fell in love with a girl who reminded him - if only superficially - of his mother? I know that I tend to go for boys who have something in common with my father. I'm not attracted to my father at all, but I've read a silly little poem he wrote in my diary when I was ten recently, and I realised that I could so fall for a man who writes like that. And then I thought, OMG, it's my father! And: But the poem's so cute and witty!

What I'm trying to say is that there's nothing wrong with being attracted to someone because there are certain characteristics about them which remind you of your parents. Unless there's something seriously wrong with me, which I wouldn't quite rule out.

I've always liked Ginny. She's the only female character in the novels who's ever showed a sense of humour. Her newly developed ability of being entertaining is a logical extrapolation of her capability of laughing at silly things, which she had shown from the very beginning. She's unnecessarily bitchy? Growing up at Molly's daughter, she had to find some way to deal with her pent-up frustrations.

Date: 2005-09-17 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mafdet.livejournal.com
I think people just want to hate her, regardless of how she's written. They hated Cho, too, for dating Harry.

This is very true. I believe there would be some excuse or another for hating Ginny no matter how utterly brilliantly JKR crafted her. She just plain cannot win.

As for Cho, I dislike her character and find her annoying as hell but not because she dated Harry. I didn't like her personality nor her quisling friend. (Wormtail/Marietta = OTP.) I liked her pre-OOtP, when she just seemed like a nice person. I do remember her getting oodles of hate back then as well for being - dun dun dun! - a "Mary Sue." Which is one reason why the term has lost just about all of its meaning.

Date: 2005-09-18 12:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] midnitemaraud-r.livejournal.com
(Wormtail/Marietta = OTP.)

*giggle* I liked Cho in GoF and through most of OotP - until she took Marietta's side. I could understand her being jealous of Hermione - Harry wasn't the most tactful of people and that article in Witch Weekly even convinced Mrs. Weasley that Harry and Hermione were an item. But I couldn't forgive her for immediately forgiving Marietta for the betrayal - Marietta would have named Cho, too, if it weren't for Kingsley.

If JKR had paired Harry with Hermione, only those shippers would have been happy - though not if she sicced birds on Harry the way she did Ron of course, or tried to make him jealous by dating McLaggan. *snort*

The term Mary Sue has definitely lost a lot of its meaning in fandom. Nobody is ever happy with any of the female characters - except the evil ones. They get sympathy for being portrayed as unredeemable. I wasn't happy with the way Tonks was portrayed in HBP - I loved her independence and vitality in OotP, but I'm sure people called her a Mary Sue in OotP because she was a Metamorph. But it's a no win situation. Women can't be too smart or too pretty or too funny or 'win the attention and love of the hero' without the consequences of being labeled as such.

Date: 2005-09-19 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnaimmaculata.livejournal.com
I absolutely agree with your assertion of the Mary Sue label. It's one of the most overused ones in fandom.

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